Comments on: Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/ Web development and Internet trends Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:37:13 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: WYSIWYG Hell - Robert’s talk - Web development and Internet trends http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-243475 WYSIWYG Hell - Robert’s talk - Web development and Internet trends Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:33:23 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-243475 [...] on the market now, be it for computers, cell phones or PDAs, the initiative and responsibility to make the web accessible for everyone has to be taken [...] [...] on the market now, be it for computers, cell phones or PDAs, the initiative and responsibility to make the web accessible for everyone has to be taken [...]

]]> By: Robert http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-161 Robert Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:47:21 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-161 Tommy, No problem at all. I should correct what I wrote in the previous comment: I just want people to start focusing on creating accessible web sites. And, as you did, it's good to point out that one shouldn't rely a 100% on the tools available, but that they might be good to use as pointers at least. Tommy,

No problem at all.

I should correct what I wrote in the previous comment:
I just want people to start focusing on creating accessible web sites.

And, as you did, it’s good to point out that one shouldn’t rely a 100% on the tools available, but that they might be good to use as pointers at least.

]]> By: Tommy Olsson http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-160 Tommy Olsson Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:27:11 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-160 I agree: it's about marketing. The unfortunate side-effect is that it tricks designers and developers into thinking that AAA is easy; it isn't. AA is no problem, but AAA takes skills and resources. I'm not criticising your article, which is very good. I just tried to elaborate on what Roger mentioned, in an attempt to explain why it's dangerous to <em>rely</em> on automatic validation for accessibility. I agree: it’s about marketing. The unfortunate side-effect is that it tricks designers and developers into thinking that AAA is easy; it isn’t. AA is no problem, but AAA takes skills and resources.

I’m not criticising your article, which is very good. I just tried to elaborate on what Roger mentioned, in an attempt to explain why it’s dangerous to rely on automatic validation for accessibility.

]]> By: Robert http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-159 Robert Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:02:26 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-159 Tommy, Well, it's a marketing deal for them with AAA, isn't it? Maybe I should've pointed out the human testing and verification factor as well. I just wanted to point people in the right discussion by start using these kinds of tools. Then, of course, more measures must be taken to achieve true accessibility. Tommy,

Well, it’s a marketing deal for them with AAA, isn’t it?
Maybe I should’ve pointed out the human testing and verification factor as well.

I just wanted to point people in the right discussion by start using these kinds of tools. Then, of course, more measures must be taken to achieve true accessibility.

]]> By: Tommy Olsson http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-158 Tommy Olsson Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:56:49 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-158 An automatic accessibility checker like Bobby or Cynthia Says can only check so much. There are many aspects of the WCAG checkpoints that needs a human being verifying them. The reports from these tools will usually tell you what you must test manually, but the problem is that many authors overlook that part and see only the AAA conformance icon. :) An automatic accessibility checker like Bobby or Cynthia Says can only check so much. There are many aspects of the WCAG checkpoints that needs a human being verifying them.

The reports from these tools will usually tell you what you must test manually, but the problem is that many authors overlook that part and see only the AAA conformance icon. :)

]]> By: Robert http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-157 Robert Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:40:03 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-157 Roger, Thank you! I haven't used Bobby extensively, so it was good to hear someone else's comment about it. Do you have any specific flaws/features you'd like to mention, or is it just a general warning? Roger,

Thank you!
I haven’t used Bobby extensively, so it was good to hear someone else’s comment about it.

Do you have any specific flaws/features you’d like to mention, or is it just a general warning?

]]> By: Roger Johansson http://robertnyman.com/2005/04/21/wai/#comment-156 Roger Johansson Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:33:29 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/wai/#comment-156 Nice summary of pointers to good accessibility resources. I'd just like to throw in a little bit of a warning about Bobby. You can use it for a basic overview of a site's accessibility, but it is far from perfect. It is unable to find many accessibility issues and reports problems that aren't actually problems. So be careful when you use it. Nice summary of pointers to good accessibility resources. I’d just like to throw in a little bit of a warning about Bobby. You can use it for a basic overview of a site’s accessibility, but it is far from perfect. It is unable to find many accessibility issues and reports problems that aren’t actually problems. So be careful when you use it.

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