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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saeid,

Nice, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saeid,</p>
<p>Nice, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Saeid Zebardast</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-27715</link>
		<dc:creator>Saeid Zebardast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow
Tanks!
I translate this post to persian.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dev.cheshmak.net/?p=73&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This post in persian (Farsi)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow<br />
Tanks!<br />
I translate this post to persian.<br />
<a href="http://dev.cheshmak.net/?p=73" rel="nofollow">This post in persian (Farsi)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-18959</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahul,

I&#039;m glad it helped. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahul,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped. <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rahul Dev Katarey</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-18831</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahul Dev Katarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

its a very useful tip Thanks!


Rahul Dev&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.katarey.com&quot; title=&quot;freelance web designer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://www.katarey.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>its a very useful tip Thanks!</p>
<p>Rahul Dev<a href="http://www.katarey.com" title="freelance web designer" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.katarey.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.katarey.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 10:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

When it comes to losing performance, I have no example. However, I&#039;d love to see one, if it affects slow computers etc.

I haven&#039;t regarded the form issue as a showstopper, either. Nevertheless, it&#039;s not that a big deal to specify the tag names specifically, so I do it nowadays just to be on the safe side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>When it comes to losing performance, I have no example. However, I&#8217;d love to see one, if it affects slow computers etc.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t regarded the form issue as a showstopper, either. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s not that a big deal to specify the tag names specifically, so I do it nowadays just to be on the safe side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cook</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t experience that at all. I&#039;ve heard (or read) it suggested and watched for it in my tests. It must be a nanosecond lag. Nor have I seen actual measures reported, just the suspicions.

I&#039;ve also read about the * rule interrupting the natural behavior of some form elements. I specifically dropped in all the inputs, selects and submits I could think of with no negative effects. I&#039;d like to see an example somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t experience that at all. I&#8217;ve heard (or read) it suggested and watched for it in my tests. It must be a nanosecond lag. Nor have I seen actual measures reported, just the suspicions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read about the * rule interrupting the natural behavior of some form elements. I specifically dropped in all the inputs, selects and submits I could think of with no negative effects. I&#8217;d like to see an example somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Ha ha! :-D
Thank you!

I&#039;m glad it helped you, although nowadays I normally use something more like &lt;a href=&quot;http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faruk&#039;s CSS&lt;/a&gt;, just because of the talk of slowing web browser performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Ha ha! <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thank you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped you, although nowadays I normally use something more like <a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow">Faruk&#8217;s CSS</a>, just because of the talk of slowing web browser performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to this party (by months) but I have to say implementing this rule has resolved a &lt;em&gt;world&lt;/em&gt; of issues. I&#039;m now staring at a layout that works in both Firefox and IE: styled menu lists, h1s, paragraphs, the works. Aaahhhhh!

My only frustration is that I didn&#039;t catch on to this earlier. It&#039;s not mentioned in the handful of CSS / Web Standards books that I have. It should be, and in bold face sized extra large too.

Thanks Robert. I&#039;m emailing Santa of your good deeds right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to this party (by months) but I have to say implementing this rule has resolved a <em>world</em> of issues. I&#8217;m now staring at a layout that works in both Firefox and IE: styled menu lists, h1s, paragraphs, the works. Aaahhhhh!</p>
<p>My only frustration is that I didn&#8217;t catch on to this earlier. It&#8217;s not mentioned in the handful of CSS / Web Standards books that I have. It should be, and in bold face sized extra large too.</p>
<p>Thanks Robert. I&#8217;m emailing Santa of your good deeds right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

It&#039;s the best one, in my opinion!  :-)
Thanks for the link to Eric&#039;s article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the best one, in my opinion!  <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thanks for the link to Eric&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Wedin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens Wedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is my favorite css too :D

Eric has some more stuff that he is &quot;undoing&quot; in his article, but I mostly do not use that other stuff.

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is my favorite css too <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eric has some more stuff that he is &#8220;undoing&#8221; in his article, but I mostly do not use that other stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/" rel="nofollow">http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sudar,

I&#039;m glad it helped!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sudar,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped!  <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sudar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert.

I was really breaking my head to get a consistent cross-browser look and this tip really makes it easy for me to control every aspect using code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robert.</p>
<p>I was really breaking my head to get a consistent cross-browser look and this tip really makes it easy for me to control every aspect using code.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faruk,

Thank you!

SilentWarrior and others, Faruk&#039;s post is a good example of how to attain a consistent cross-browser and cross-platform look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faruk,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>SilentWarrior and others, Faruk&#8217;s post is a good example of how to attain a consistent cross-browser and cross-platform look.</p>
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		<title>By: Faruk AteÃ…Å¸</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>Faruk AteÃ…Å¸</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Robert, on your request:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my &lt;code&gt;initial.css&lt;/code&gt; file explained&lt;/a&gt;. A good way to start CSS based design :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Robert, on your request:</p>
<p><a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow">my <code>initial.css</code> file explained</a>. A good way to start CSS based design <img src='http://robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SilentWarrior,

Absolutely, things like background-color, color and their likes can also be added through it.

When it comes to font specifically, I tend to set that on the &lt;code&gt;body&lt;/code&gt; element and let it be inherited down through the elements.

If you look at my &lt;a href=&quot;http://robertnyman.com/roblab/javascript-text-size-in-ie.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Find out the current Text Size setting in IE&lt;/a&gt; example, that&#039;s how I usually apply the font.

When it comes to slowing down the parsing, it&#039;s a valid question, but personally I don&#039;t think it&#039;s even noticeable. I know of &lt;em&gt;many&lt;/em&gt; web developers out there that use this, and amongst these are a lot of the high-profile ones too, like Eric Meyer. So to me, it seemes like a well-tested and approved concept.

guywiththebike,

Thank you, I&#039;m happy to hear that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SilentWarrior,</p>
<p>Absolutely, things like background-color, color and their likes can also be added through it.</p>
<p>When it comes to font specifically, I tend to set that on the <code>body</code> element and let it be inherited down through the elements.</p>
<p>If you look at my <a href="http://robertnyman.com/roblab/javascript-text-size-in-ie.htm" rel="nofollow">Find out the current Text Size setting in IE</a> example, that&#8217;s how I usually apply the font.</p>
<p>When it comes to slowing down the parsing, it&#8217;s a valid question, but personally I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even noticeable. I know of <em>many</em> web developers out there that use this, and amongst these are a lot of the high-profile ones too, like Eric Meyer. So to me, it seemes like a well-tested and approved concept.</p>
<p>guywiththebike,</p>
<p>Thank you, I&#8217;m happy to hear that!</p>
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		<title>By: guywiththebike</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>guywiththebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Robert, thanks a lot.

That is going to help me out immensely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Robert, thanks a lot.</p>
<p>That is going to help me out immensely!</p>
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		<title>By: SilentWarrior</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>SilentWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

That is indeed very useful. I also plan to use it in future projects.

But wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t it also be useful to expand it even a little more, e.g. add color:#000 and background-color:#fff? Or even some other things, like default font or so.

I would also be interested in how far it slows down parsing a web site and if it is too long for the standard visitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>That is indeed very useful. I also plan to use it in future projects.</p>
<p>But wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t it also be useful to expand it even a little more, e.g. add color:#000 and background-color:#fff? Or even some other things, like default font or so.</p>
<p>I would also be interested in how far it slows down parsing a web site and if it is too long for the standard visitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

That was an interesting aspect! Personally, I&#039;ve never experienced any performance problems when it comes to it. Do you have any examples where it&#039;s noticeable?

Also, when it comes to removing it all, what other default styling do you have in mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>That was an interesting aspect! Personally, I&#8217;ve never experienced any performance problems when it comes to it. Do you have any examples where it&#8217;s noticeable?</p>
<p>Also, when it comes to removing it all, what other default styling do you have in mind?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using universal selectors slows down the parser. And while you are removing default style, why not remove all of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using universal selectors slows down the parser. And while you are removing default style, why not remove all of it?</p>
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