Comments on: MSN Messenger censors links http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/ Web development and Internet trends Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:15:00 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: synt4x http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-405956 synt4x Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:04:23 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-405956 I think MSN removes links to TOR sites as well. I used to run a TOR exit relay on my server and ever since then, I can't link to my own server unless I talk encrypted. I don't even run TOR on the server anymore and I still have the problem. F***ing Microsoft always think they know what is best. I say screw MSN and Windows and Microsoft all together and use Mac or preferably some form of Linux with Jabber for IM. Such freedom with Linux. I think MSN removes links to TOR sites as well. I used to run a TOR exit relay on my server and ever since then, I can’t link to my own server unless I talk encrypted.
I don’t even run TOR on the server anymore and I still have the problem. F***ing Microsoft always think they know what is best.
I say screw MSN and Windows and Microsoft all together and use Mac or preferably some form of Linux with Jabber for IM. Such freedom with Linux.

]]> By: Lisa http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-4905 Lisa Mon, 15 May 2006 15:31:36 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-4905 Does anyone know any webs linking 2 msn messenger Does anyone know any webs linking 2 msn messenger

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]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3378 Robert Nyman Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:00:30 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3378 Faruk, Yes, I hear very good things about Adium. perhaps I will get the chance to test it one day... :-) Faruk,

Yes, I hear very good things about Adium. perhaps I will get the chance to test it one day… :-)

]]> By: Faruk Ates http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3377 Faruk Ates Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:55:16 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3377 Robert, The AIM client itself on Windows is absolute piss. I always used Trillian because it was -somewhat- acceptable. Then I went text-only with Bitblee (a plugin for my text-only IRC client, irssi, that ran on a linux screen 24/7). That way, AIM was totally doable. On OS X, though, I just use Adium and it's been the most pleasant AIM experience ever, really. Also, I can just set my own aliases for people (MSN, AIM, whatev) so I never get discombobulated from those horrible display names that some people use. BLISS! :) Robert,

The AIM client itself on Windows is absolute piss. I always used Trillian because it was -somewhat- acceptable. Then I went text-only with Bitblee (a plugin for my text-only IRC client, irssi, that ran on a linux screen 24/7). That way, AIM was totally doable.

On OS X, though, I just use Adium and it’s been the most pleasant AIM experience ever, really. Also, I can just set my own aliases for people (MSN, AIM, whatev) so I never get discombobulated from those horrible display names that some people use. BLISS! :)

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3333 Robert Nyman Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:08:13 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3333 Emil, Well, it sounds tempting, but I'm <em>really</em> relucatant to change. I just want to get rid of the filtering... :-) Emil,

Well, it sounds tempting, but I’m really relucatant to change. I just want to get rid of the filtering… :-)

]]> By: Emil Stenström http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3325 Emil Stenström Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:32:35 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3325 <a href="http://www.miranda-im.org/" rel="nofollow">Miranda IM</a> is a really simple client that can do a lot of protocols. I just downloaded it and had a look and instantly dropped both MSN messager and ICQ. It's that good. Miranda IM is a really simple client that can do a lot of protocols. I just downloaded it and had a look and instantly dropped both MSN messager and ICQ. It’s that good.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3316 Robert Nyman Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:02:40 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3316 Maarten, Well, we agree about it being up to the user. Still not sure if they should be obligated, though. I guess it can be good for inexperienced users, but then it should be implemented with care. Faruk, Well, I really hate the AIM interface... :-) But yes, I agree about display names. Maarten,

Well, we agree about it being up to the user. Still not sure if they should be obligated, though. I guess it can be good for inexperienced users, but then it should be implemented with care.

Faruk,

Well, I really hate the AIM interface… :-)
But yes, I agree about display names.

]]> By: Faruk Ates http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3315 Faruk Ates Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:55:36 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3315 Yuck! That's really, really nasty! I've never liked the MSN protocol, actually. I find AIM much more pleasant — particularly because MSN allows horrible display names that include icons and what not. I *reallyreally* hate that. Worst usability ever. Yuck! That’s really, really nasty!

I’ve never liked the MSN protocol, actually. I find AIM much more pleasant — particularly because MSN allows horrible display names that include icons and what not. I *reallyreally* hate that. Worst usability ever.

]]> By: Maarten Leewis http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3314 Maarten Leewis Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:33:52 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3314 Well let me re-phrase ; it should be obligated to warn when it wants to remove a link from the message. And it should be customizable. If the client detects a possible virus, trojan or malware it should at least give you the option to choose to remove the link, instead of making the decission for you. What is meant to say is that the choice should be up to the user and not the IM client. And i got the impression that was what Tanny suggested. Well let me re-phrase ; it should be obligated to warn when it wants to remove a link from the message. And it should be customizable. If the client detects a possible virus, trojan or malware it should at least give you the option to choose to remove the link, instead of making the decission for you.

What is meant to say is that the choice should be up to the user and not the IM client. And i got the impression that was what Tanny suggested.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3310 Robert Nyman Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:06:04 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3310 Chris, Yes, I know about the other options but I don't really like them. I like MSN Messenger just fine, the only thing I want to change is their behavior whein it comes to link filtering. When it comes to Skype, the only thing that has happened is that it repeatedly frooze my computer. Maybe just a bad day/build, but it didn't really live me craving for more... Tanny, Yes, something like that sounds good, but i also think it should be a setting that the user can change. Maarten, I'm not sure I agree that IM software should be obligated to warn. Sure, it might be a nice service, but then it really has to be customizable. Regarding the comment preview, could you please describe that more detailed or <a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/about" rel="nofollow">send me an e-mail</a> about it? micke, I've tried it but didn't really fall for it. However, I do agree that offline messages should be supported in all IM clients. Chris,

Yes, I know about the other options but I don’t really like them. I like MSN Messenger just fine, the only thing I want to change is their behavior whein it comes to link filtering.

When it comes to Skype, the only thing that has happened is that it repeatedly frooze my computer. Maybe just a bad day/build, but it didn’t really live me craving for more…

Tanny,

Yes, something like that sounds good, but i also think it should be a setting that the user can change.

Maarten,

I’m not sure I agree that IM software should be obligated to warn. Sure, it might be a nice service, but then it really has to be customizable.

Regarding the comment preview, could you please describe that more detailed or send me an e-mail about it?

micke,

I’ve tried it but didn’t really fall for it. However, I do agree that offline messages should be supported in all IM clients.

]]> By: micke http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3309 micke Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:47:54 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3309 IMHO Google Talk (=Jabber) is the best IM ever. It even supports offline messages, which MSN doesn't. I use it with Gaim and it's really stable and fast. On top of all this, Jabber is an open protocol not owned by some evil company filtering your messages without telling. IMHO Google Talk (=Jabber) is the best IM ever. It even supports offline messages, which MSN doesn’t. I use it with Gaim and it’s really stable and fast. On top of all this, Jabber is an open protocol not owned by some evil company filtering your messages without telling.

]]> By: Maarten Leewis http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3308 Maarten Leewis Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:39:19 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3308 I use Adium, with only one account. I have been using ICQ for about 10 years now. But ICQ hasn't updated there program in the past 4 years. So i found myself better of with Adium. I guess any IM client should evaluate a link and then suggest your options. I don't think any clients has the right to remove a link from a message. But it should be obligated to warn. (p.s Comment preview is messed up with code when i start a new ) I use Adium, with only one account. I have been using ICQ for about 10 years now. But ICQ hasn’t updated there program in the past 4 years. So i found myself better of with Adium.

I guess any IM client should evaluate a link and then suggest your options. I don’t think any clients has the right to remove a link from a message. But it should be obligated to warn.

(p.s Comment preview is messed up with code when i start a new )

]]> By: Tanny O'Haley http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3302 Tanny O'Haley Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:24:35 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3302 I also use Skype and I agree with Alexander and Chris that it is great. The problem with IM right now is vicious people who send links to virus and trojan programs in IM messages. Maybe Microsoft should get smarter and evaluate the link for a bad program before getting rid of the link. At the least they should show a message that says they have deleted the link. Something like: *** Possible dangerous link deleted *** To delete the link without telling the user is not polite. I also use Skype and I agree with Alexander and Chris that it is great. The problem with IM right now is vicious people who send links to virus and trojan programs in IM messages. Maybe Microsoft should get smarter and evaluate the link for a bad program before getting rid of the link.

At the least they should show a message that says they have deleted the link. Something like:

*** Possible dangerous link deleted ***

To delete the link without telling the user is not polite.

]]> By: Chris http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3298 Chris Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:29:50 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3298 I use Skype too and it is great! But 85 contacts is a lot... maybe some of them already have Skype? I know 2 IM systems that are compatible with many other IM sytems: one is called <a href="http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" title="Visit Gaim Website" rel="nofollow">Gaim</a> and the other is <a href="http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/" title="Visit Trillian Website" rel="nofollow">Trillian</a>. I use Skype too and it is great! But 85 contacts is a lot… maybe some of them already have Skype?
I know 2 IM systems that are compatible with many other IM sytems: one is called Gaim and the other is Trillian.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3287 Robert Nyman Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:38:10 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3287 alexander, Well, I have about 85 contacts on MSN Messenger, and don't really feel ready to change that just b/c of this. However, I really find it annoying and think it's something they should change as soon as possible. alexander,

Well, I have about 85 contacts on MSN Messenger, and don’t really feel ready to change that just b/c of this. However, I really find it annoying and think it’s something they should change as soon as possible.

]]> By: alexander http://robertnyman.com/2006/02/22/msn-messenger-censors-links/#comment-3286 alexander Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:22:24 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=351#comment-3286 I would recommend skype for IM. You can talk, chat and send files... all encrypted, no filtering whatsoever. By far the best IM I have tried.. downside is that not too many people use it. I would recommend skype for IM. You can talk, chat and send files… all encrypted, no filtering whatsoever. By far the best IM I have tried.. downside is that not too many people use it.

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