Comments on: IE 6: now coming to a cell phone near you http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/ Web development and Internet trends Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: An evening with Microsoft - Robert’s talk - Web development and Internet trends http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-548831 An evening with Microsoft - Robert’s talk - Web development and Internet trends Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:37:36 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-548831 [...] 1 minute Microsoft stating “We know IE 6 sucks” (well, don’t use it as a base for the next mobile Internet Explorer then!) [...] [...] 1 minute Microsoft stating “We know IE 6 sucks” (well, don’t use it as a base for the next mobile Internet Explorer then!) [...]

]]> By: itscion http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-533638 itscion Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:29:23 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-533638 I might be wrong but isn't the previous versions based on IE3? IE6 may not be great but...... I might be wrong but isn’t the previous versions based on IE3? IE6 may not be great but……

]]> By: Adrian von Gegerfelt http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-482166 Adrian von Gegerfelt Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:46:16 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-482166 Hahaha! Yes!!! Hahaha! Yes!!!

]]> By: Paul Irish http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-480919 Paul Irish Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:56:07 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-480919 Based on Bruce's research, I'll retract my above claims. :) This looks to be a horrible horrible decision from MSFT. Thanks for the great work, Bruce. Based on Bruce’s research, I’ll retract my above claims. :) This looks to be a horrible horrible decision from MSFT.

Thanks for the great work, Bruce.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-480874 Robert Nyman Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:55:47 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-480874 bruce, Great, thanks for the input! bruce,

Great, thanks for the input!

]]> By: bruce http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-480772 bruce Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:51:18 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-480772 I did some tests on IE 6 standards support http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2008/ie-6-mobile-standards-compliance-tests/. Somewhat lacking, is the short conclusion ... I did some tests on IE 6 standards support http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2008/ie-6-mobile-standards-compliance-tests/. Somewhat lacking, is the short conclusion …

]]> By: Don’t go spoiling the party: Google Chrome to support ActiveX in Korea » iheni :: making the web worldwide http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-480320 Don’t go spoiling the party: Google Chrome to support ActiveX in Korea » iheni :: making the web worldwide Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:22:26 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-480320 [...] seems to have got a further reprieve as Microsoft announced IE6 for Windows Mobile recently. While is does contain some improvements, such as the same JavaScript support as IE8, [...] [...] seems to have got a further reprieve as Microsoft announced IE6 for Windows Mobile recently. While is does contain some improvements, such as the same JavaScript support as IE8, [...]

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-479211 Robert Nyman Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:14:31 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-479211 Paul, Actually, the Mobile Team guy doesn't mention about CSS, only JScript being of a later version. The other commenter doesn't have any facts, and doesn't seem to be a official Microsoft person. Another scary look is <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/3041236348" rel="nofollow">a shot of the W3C compatibility test of Mobile IE 6</a>. HB, Ha ha! Yep, it's feels like the end of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074285/" rel="nofollow">Carrie</a> or something! Paul,

Actually, the Mobile Team guy doesn’t mention about CSS, only JScript being of a later version. The other commenter doesn’t have any facts, and doesn’t seem to be a official Microsoft person.

Another scary look is a shot of the W3C compatibility test of Mobile IE 6.

HB,

Ha ha! Yep, it’s feels like the end of Carrie or something!

]]> By: HB http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-479190 HB Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:25:28 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-479190 For some reason I keep thinking about that ol' horror movie cliche - after the big battle at the end, the big monster's dead, the kids can finally let down their guard... ... and then the monster's eyes open just before the credits roll. This summer, IE6: Return of Quirks Mode For some reason I keep thinking about that ol’ horror movie cliche – after the big battle at the end, the big monster’s dead, the kids can finally let down their guard…

… and then the monster’s eyes open just before the credits roll.

This summer, IE6: Return of Quirks Mode

]]> By: IE6: not so dead after all ~ intangiblestyle http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-479130 IE6: not so dead after all ~ intangiblestyle Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:05:32 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-479130 [...] these days is focused on the iPhone and Blackberry (both of which use Webkit), and Opera Mini. As Robert Nyman points out, Microsoft and IE have only a minority share in smartphone market. That means IE6 for WinMo is [...] [...] these days is focused on the iPhone and Blackberry (both of which use Webkit), and Opera Mini. As Robert Nyman points out, Microsoft and IE have only a minority share in smartphone market. That means IE6 for WinMo is [...]

]]> By: Paul Irish http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-478318 Paul Irish Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:06:12 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-478318 This might be a big of an overreaction... (not that I don't loathe IE6, too, but...) If you poke into the comments (<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx#9063740" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx#9067791" rel="nofollow">here</a>), you'll see that IEM6's version number doesn't indicate any sort of direct relationship with the desktop IE6; rather it ties to Windows Mobile 6, which is the current release of their mobile platform. It looks like the browser guts will be ie7,8 based. Okay, now everyone exhale.. :) This might be a big of an overreaction… (not that I don’t loathe IE6, too, but…)

If you poke into the comments (here and here), you’ll see that IEM6’s version number doesn’t indicate any sort of direct relationship with the desktop IE6; rather it ties to Windows Mobile 6, which is the current release of their mobile platform.

It looks like the browser guts will be ie7,8 based.

Okay, now everyone exhale.. :)

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-478000 Robert Nyman Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:34:32 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-478000 Thanks for your comments! Jonathan, I understand your point, especially if we look at already existing web sites. However, for any kind of new development, the lack of standards support in IE 6 is for me is practically a deal-breaker. With desktop web browsers, web developers have had to support IE 6 because of its huge market share. Since it will be such a minority on mobile web browsers, and especially amongst all web browsers as a whole, I'm certain that it will be very difficult to motivate financially the extra development hours it takes. Therefore, personally, I don't regard this as a step forward, but rather a short-sighted mistake on their behalf. Thanks for your comments!

Jonathan,

I understand your point, especially if we look at already existing web sites. However, for any kind of new development, the lack of standards support in IE 6 is for me is practically a deal-breaker.

With desktop web browsers, web developers have had to support IE 6 because of its huge market share. Since it will be such a minority on mobile web browsers, and especially amongst all web browsers as a whole, I’m certain that it will be very difficult to motivate financially the extra development hours it takes.

Therefore, personally, I don’t regard this as a step forward, but rather a short-sighted mistake on their behalf.

]]> By: Visa Kopu » Tulossa pian: Internet Explorer 6! http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-477919 Visa Kopu » Tulossa pian: Internet Explorer 6! Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:55:42 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-477919 [...] tämä vain vitsi, onhan? Nyt ei kyllä olla edes lähelläkään aprillipäivää. Robert Nyman kirjoittaa blogissaan, että Windows Mobilen uusi selain perustuu Internet Explorerin pahamaineiseen kuutosversioon: The [...] [...] tämä vain vitsi, onhan? Nyt ei kyllä olla edes lähelläkään aprillipäivää. Robert Nyman kirjoittaa blogissaan, että Windows Mobilen uusi selain perustuu Internet Explorerin pahamaineiseen kuutosversioon: The [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Snook http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-477912 Jonathan Snook Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:24:02 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-477912 I had a chance to talk with some folks from Nokia and their web platform seems to running on Webkit, which is nice. I'd be interested in creating an app that could work on Nokia, iPhone, AIR and the web, all using a similar code base (with the exception of device-specific APIs). I can see why MS would go with IE6, though. I really do. It's a browser that renders almost all pages just fine. It's just a pain for the rest of us to develop for. I had a chance to talk with some folks from Nokia and their web platform seems to running on Webkit, which is nice. I’d be interested in creating an app that could work on Nokia, iPhone, AIR and the web, all using a similar code base (with the exception of device-specific APIs).

I can see why MS would go with IE6, though. I really do. It’s a browser that renders almost all pages just fine. It’s just a pain for the rest of us to develop for.

]]> By: David Naylor http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-477896 David Naylor Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:13 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-477896 Microsoft never cease to amaze me. Microsoft never cease to amaze me.

]]> By: Morgan Roderick http://robertnyman.com/2008/11/21/ie-6-now-coming-to-a-cell-phone-near-you/#comment-477890 Morgan Roderick Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:28:11 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1004#comment-477890 Strategically, this will be a very poor move for Microsoft. But, it certainly goes to show just how little coordination there is within the ranks of the Redmond giant. With Microsofts ambition to dominate all the markets they choose to compete in, I can only imagine that keeping IE6 around for another 7 years, is going to keep Sharepoint the awful mess that it is. IE6 needs to be expired, and we need to move forwards. This is NOT a step in the right direction. Strategically, this will be a very poor move for Microsoft. But, it certainly goes to show just how little coordination there is within the ranks of the Redmond giant.

With Microsofts ambition to dominate all the markets they choose to compete in, I can only imagine that keeping IE6 around for another 7 years, is going to keep Sharepoint the awful mess that it is.

IE6 needs to be expired, and we need to move forwards. This is NOT a step in the right direction.

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