Comments on: Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/ Web development and Internet trends Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:37:38 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Slow Death of IE6 « Amy on the Web http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-623286 The Slow Death of IE6 « Amy on the Web Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:23:06 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-623286 [...] has been quite a large movement to get users to upgrade from IE6. Some even took the stance to stop developing for IE6 altogether. I, however, always optimized sites for IE6 because 9 times out of 10 [...] [...] has been quite a large movement to get users to upgrade from IE6. Some even took the stance to stop developing for IE6 altogether. I, however, always optimized sites for IE6 because 9 times out of 10 [...]

]]> By: cmd http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-622321 cmd Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:07:36 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-622321 Just stop developing for IE at all, it is still not completely standards compliant, and doesn't completely pass Acid 3 test. Just stop developing for IE at all, it is still not completely standards compliant, and doesn’t completely pass Acid 3 test.

]]> By: Dealing with IE6 in an almost IE8 world | MBJWORK http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-621831 Dealing with IE6 in an almost IE8 world | MBJWORK Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:07:08 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-621831 [...] Robert Nyman:  Stop Developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...] [...] Robert Nyman:  Stop Developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...]

]]> By: Thank you for 2009 – Happy New Year! - Robert's talk http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-615850 Thank you for 2009 – Happy New Year! - Robert's talk Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:29:08 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-615850 [...] 09: Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...] [...] 09: Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...]

]]> By: Wie mit dem Internet Explorer 6 umgehen? « betawax http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-614212 Wie mit dem Internet Explorer 6 umgehen? « betawax Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-614212 [...] Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...] [...] Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...]

]]> By: Aaron Clausen http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-612328 Aaron Clausen Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:35:20 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-612328 100% agree with everything here. I have stopped specifically supporting IE7 already. And that was a very difficult decision to come by. Windows users have the luxury of using Windows Update to seemlessly update to IE8, so it's not a major issue. The more people that band together and refuse to cater for IE7, the quicker this path will be as IE7 users will begin to get a bad experience with more and more web sites. Take a hard stance and stop supporting this old rubbish. It's the only way. Like others above, it's an extra cost for my customer and a waste of time keeping the whole internet happy with IE7 when those IE7 people can simply upgrade to IE8 by clicking "Windows Update". I sometimes put a specific message saying "It appears you are using IE7, please upgrade to IE8, Firefox or Google Chrome to view this site correctly". 100% agree with everything here.

I have stopped specifically supporting IE7 already. And that was a very difficult decision to come by. Windows users have the luxury of using Windows Update to seemlessly update to IE8, so it’s not a major issue.

The more people that band together and refuse to cater for IE7, the quicker this path will be as IE7 users will begin to get a bad experience with more and more web sites.

Take a hard stance and stop supporting this old rubbish. It’s the only way.

Like others above, it’s an extra cost for my customer and a waste of time keeping the whole internet happy with IE7 when those IE7 people can simply upgrade to IE8 by clicking “Windows Update”.

I sometimes put a specific message saying “It appears you are using IE7, please upgrade to IE8, Firefox or Google Chrome to view this site correctly”.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-610398 Robert Nyman Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:37:07 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-610398 DutchAdmin, I definitely understand where you are coming from, and sometimes we have no choice. What I would suggest, though, is make sure the site works in IE 6, but put all the extra effort into making it better (i.e. all the bells and whistles, from rounded corners with CSS to more advanced things like DOM Storage etc). DutchAdmin,

I definitely understand where you are coming from, and sometimes we have no choice. What I would suggest, though, is make sure the site works in IE 6, but put all the extra effort into making it better (i.e. all the bells and whistles, from rounded corners with CSS to more advanced things like DOM Storage etc).

]]> By: DutchAdmin http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-610322 DutchAdmin Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:59:30 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-610322 We sell houseware items including kitchenware, furniture, and household decorations. As such, those who access our website do so primarily from their home. Your stats of ~20% using IE6 are consistent with our own. We are experiencing performance issues with IE6, but we <b>must</b> support these potential customers. As a software developer (12 web/15 overall experience), I feel the same pain as everyone else, but we cannot afford to lose a fraction of those who currently use IE6. It would be inpracticle to believe we are not losing business due to our current issues with IE6, so we do not have much of a choice than to continue to meet the problem head-on. I think it is logical to assume a downward trend in the use of IE6, especially with Windows 7 now released, but as a business we cannot take a passive view on this or any other deterant to our website. I am glad that you have taken such a position - we indirectly benefit from others who correctly abandon support for IE6. Thank you for a nice article. We sell houseware items including kitchenware, furniture, and household decorations. As such, those who access our website do so primarily from their home. Your stats of ~20% using IE6 are consistent with our own. We are experiencing performance issues with IE6, but we must support these potential customers. As a software developer (12 web/15 overall experience), I feel the same pain as everyone else, but we cannot afford to lose a fraction of those who currently use IE6.

It would be inpracticle to believe we are not losing business due to our current issues with IE6, so we do not have much of a choice than to continue to meet the problem head-on. I think it is logical to assume a downward trend in the use of IE6, especially with Windows 7 now released, but as a business we cannot take a passive view on this or any other deterant to our website. I am glad that you have taken such a position – we indirectly benefit from others who correctly abandon support for IE6. Thank you for a nice article.

]]> By: Traduction française du plugin Shockingly Big IE6 Warning pour Wordpress | Michael Wassmer http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-604765 Traduction française du plugin Shockingly Big IE6 Warning pour Wordpress | Michael Wassmer Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:38:51 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-604765 [...] et préhistorique Internet Explorer 6. Pourquoi devrait-on faire ça en tant que développeur? Voici quelques bons [...] [...] et préhistorique Internet Explorer 6. Pourquoi devrait-on faire ça en tant que développeur? Voici quelques bons [...]

]]> By: Shockingly Big IE6 Warning plugin french transaltion | Michael Wassmer Multimedia http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-603857 Shockingly Big IE6 Warning plugin french transaltion | Michael Wassmer Multimedia Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:31:01 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-603857 [...] and prehistorical piece of software Internet Explorer 6. Why would you do this as a developer? Here are some good [...] [...] and prehistorical piece of software Internet Explorer 6. Why would you do this as a developer? Here are some good [...]

]]> By: webjawns.com » IE6 is still not dead, and why we are to blame http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-603792 webjawns.com » IE6 is still not dead, and why we are to blame Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:49:54 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-603792 [...] Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...] [...] Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 [...]

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-597839 Robert Nyman Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:57:47 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-597839 MSXROCKS, Yeah, just imagine what the web could have been by now without IE 6... Elgin, Thank you! Also, thanks for the link! MSXROCKS,

Yeah, just imagine what the web could have been by now without IE 6…

Elgin,

Thank you! Also, thanks for the link!

]]> By: Elgin Stafford http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-596826 Elgin Stafford Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:55:43 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-596826 Robert, this article is Amazing! And I couldn't agree more with what you are saying! Here is a document that we developed to help users take to their companies. It discusses <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/17681961/Why-Your-Company-Should-Offer-an-Alternative-to-IE6" rel="nofollow">why businesses should offer their users an alternative to IE6</a>. I hope that you have a chance to look at it. Thanks. http://mitto.com Your Safe and Secure Online Password Manager Robert, this article is Amazing! And I couldn’t agree more with what you are saying!

Here is a document that we developed to help users take to their companies. It discusses why businesses should offer their users an alternative to IE6.
I hope that you have a chance to look at it.

Thanks.

http://mitto.com
Your Safe and Secure Online Password Manager

]]> By: MSXROCKS http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-596224 MSXROCKS Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:37:48 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-596224 1600% agreeing with you. Can you imagine how top-notch the web would look like if we had left IE6 sooner... This is just unbelievable. We lost years of advanced designs and performances, a new sacrificed generation of developers and end-users. IE6 was extremely stable attractive with no equivalent when it came out but the Internet is now still looking poor mainly because of this browser. Microsoft must also agree with that too. It is a bit aggressive but we developers have to stop support for this browser to oblige end-users to upgrade. When they will notice they can't surf any page, they will be forced upgrade. By keeping developing for IE6, and beside previously stated loss of time and money on IE6 compatibility, IE6 users have no reason to upgrade. IE6 is not secure for end-users so for the servers. 1600% agreeing with you.
Can you imagine how top-notch the web would look like if we had left IE6 sooner… This is just unbelievable. We lost years of advanced designs and performances, a new sacrificed generation of developers and end-users.
IE6 was extremely stable attractive with no equivalent when it came out but the Internet is now still looking poor mainly because of this browser. Microsoft must also agree with that too.
It is a bit aggressive but we developers have to stop support for this browser to oblige end-users to upgrade. When they will notice they can’t surf any page, they will be forced upgrade. By keeping developing for IE6, and beside previously stated loss of time and money on IE6 compatibility, IE6 users have no reason to upgrade.
IE6 is not secure for end-users so for the servers.

]]> By: joe developer http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-594026 joe developer Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:46:24 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-594026 <!--[if lt IE 7]>--> Time to upgrade your browser If you're reading this, you're surfing using Internet Explorer 6, an eight-year-old browser that cannot cope with the demands of the modern internet, and has SERIOUS SECURITY ISSUES. For the best web experience, we strongly recommend upgrading to <a href="http://www.getfirefox.com/" rel="nofollow">Firefox</a>, <a href="http://www.opera.com/" rel="nofollow">Opera</a>, <a href="http://www.apple.com/safari/" rel="nofollow">Safari</a>, <a href="http://www.google.com/chrome" rel="nofollow">Google Chrome</a>, or a more recent version of <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/getitnow.mspx" rel="nofollow">Internet Explorer</a>.

Time to upgrade your browser
If you’re reading this, you’re surfing using Internet Explorer 6, an eight-year-old browser that cannot cope with the demands of the modern internet, and has SERIOUS SECURITY ISSUES. For the best web experience, we strongly recommend upgrading to Firefox, Opera, Safari, Google Chrome, or a more recent version of Internet Explorer.

]]> By: Degradable PNG Transparency for IE6 | schoberg.net http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-593248 Degradable PNG Transparency for IE6 | schoberg.net Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:26:03 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-593248 [...] (sane) web developers are eagerly awaiting the day Internet Explorer 6 dies. While there are a number of opinions in the community on when we should drop support and how we should encourage users to [...] [...] (sane) web developers are eagerly awaiting the day Internet Explorer 6 dies. While there are a number of opinions in the community on when we should drop support and how we should encourage users to [...]

]]> By: Gegen den Internet Explorer 6 | Mar Rodríguez http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-591278 Gegen den Internet Explorer 6 | Mar Rodríguez Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:52:33 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-591278 [...] Stop Developing For Internet Explorer 6 Google schickt den IE6 in die Wüste Internet Explorer (webmastertipps) Written by admin in: projects | [...] [...] Stop Developing For Internet Explorer 6 Google schickt den IE6 in die Wüste Internet Explorer (webmastertipps) Written by admin in: projects | [...]

]]> By: [mensch@mensch: ~]% A Designer’s Foray in the Wondrous World of FLOSS » Running multiple Internet Explorer versions http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-590477 [mensch@mensch: ~]% A Designer’s Foray in the Wondrous World of FLOSS » Running multiple Internet Explorer versions Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:42:35 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-590477 [...] Javascript support and general HTML rendering. While I applaud the initiative of some developers to stop developing for IE6, I think testing in at least two versions of Internet Explorer will still be a requirement in the [...] [...] Javascript support and general HTML rendering. While I applaud the initiative of some developers to stop developing for IE6, I think testing in at least two versions of Internet Explorer will still be a requirement in the [...]

]]> By: steelheart's me2DAY http://robertnyman.com/2009/02/09/stop-developing-for-internet-explorer-6/#comment-587826 steelheart's me2DAY Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:31:55 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/?p=1149#comment-587826 <strong>????? ??...</strong> Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 - WEB DEVELOPERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THEIR CUSTOMERS.... ????? ??…

Stop developing for Internet Explorer 6 – WEB DEVELOPERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THEIR CUSTOMERS….

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